the republicans have to sound reasonable in order to win elections, especially the presidential election, at the presidential level, and they haven't done that in recent years. >> what about the -- let me go to the asians for a minute. this is a huge growing population. supposedly great business people, free market people, free enterprise people. republicans got slammed in the asian -- >> i don't know why. >> it was just as bad as hispanics. is it because republicans don't go there, they don't talk to asians, they don't go to their meetings? it's it's a matter of language? it's a matter of communication? >> i have no idea why because asians come here legally, there's no flob, they're usually very hard-working, don't depend on government entitlements. that's a mystery to me on that one. >> why do you think that is, that asians are going democratic? >> i think partar of it is the perception that the republicans is a rich white club and by definition that excludes aother people. but also let's say this idea is true, this stereotype of asians as being super entrepreneurial and pro business i